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AgentJayZ
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Приєднався 15 сер 2007
Welcome to my channel, where we explore and enjoy as many aspects of jet engines as we are allowed access to.
My name is AgentJayZ, I live in Jet City, and I am equal parts Noise, Heat and Speed.
I was born on the Island of Misfit Toys, and in an earlier time, I discovered the heatilon.
If you feel especially at home here ...
Of course you are slightly strange, because you understand and have an affection for inanimate machinery.
But the socialites and politicians of the world mock what they know they can never understand.
...That the creations of technology... human technology... have a beauty, an art... a life of their own.
You, being one of those people who understand and appreciate this, are forever tasked with swimming upstream against the blindness of the mainstream.
... Welcome to the Machine...
...from Orenda 14 pt.3
The shop address is:
8923 91St. Fort St. John, BC
Canada V1J 4T4
My name is AgentJayZ, I live in Jet City, and I am equal parts Noise, Heat and Speed.
I was born on the Island of Misfit Toys, and in an earlier time, I discovered the heatilon.
If you feel especially at home here ...
Of course you are slightly strange, because you understand and have an affection for inanimate machinery.
But the socialites and politicians of the world mock what they know they can never understand.
...That the creations of technology... human technology... have a beauty, an art... a life of their own.
You, being one of those people who understand and appreciate this, are forever tasked with swimming upstream against the blindness of the mainstream.
... Welcome to the Machine...
...from Orenda 14 pt.3
The shop address is:
8923 91St. Fort St. John, BC
Canada V1J 4T4
Compressor Stall 2 Follow Up
The final and most important question, which was left out of Compressor Stall 2... is answered here.
A Boeing training video about Compressor Stall : ua-cam.com/video/MQWYhsYfMxE/v-deo.htmlsi=AKJrzDzLFZ40hBvA
A Boeing training video about Compressor Stall : ua-cam.com/video/MQWYhsYfMxE/v-deo.htmlsi=AKJrzDzLFZ40hBvA
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Відео
Compressor Stall 2
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Adding some more details to the discussion and description of turbine engine compressor stall. Make sure to watch the follow up video to this one ! Please add your questions to the comments. Here is the first Video on compressor stall: ua-cam.com/video/yaFeO6Jze64/v-deo.html Here is the often overlooked Q&A sequel to that one: ua-cam.com/video/xzdpkIibwBM/v-deo.html
Engines Turning Both Ways
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Viewers have asked about "handed" engines. Are there jet engines that turn one way on one wing, and turn the other way on the other wing? It only makes sense, right? Common sense would dictate... Seems like the best way to do it... I don't see why they wouldn't do that... Well, let's have just a little think... Hey, look at this! One of my favorite channels, by a real airliner pilot, put out a ...
Afterburning Sabre comment & a Big Opportunity
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Would it be possible to put an afterburner in a Sabre Jet? Also, this may be your big chance. Do not send you info to me. Watch the video, and follow the instructions... Direct your inquiries to the man doing the hiring. His name is Dane. Here is an informative discussion of exhaust nozzles. I found it accurate but dull. ua-cam.com/video/Nxw1HZj-b74/v-deo.htmlsi=6KrfgOzYdIaONh5k
What is a Hush Kit?
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We take a look at old-school tech that was applied to airliner engines in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, until the march of technology made them unnecessary. They were weird, groovy, and vital to comply with the law. I wish I had one! Some copy/paste links... The video that sparked the question: ua-cam.com/video/C0umWIPCPd4/v-deo.html at 15:58 aircrew is inspecting the exhaust mixer. My video called Tu...
Oil Pump: Replace or Overhaul?
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A viewer asked why aren't the oil pumps in turbine engines just routinely replaced after a specified interval of running. For a variety of reasons, things in the aviation world are a bit different from the way cars are maintained. Links: The video which sparked the question... Oil Pump Rebuilding and Testing : ua-cam.com/video/moQC6J2SaBo/v-deo.html Jet Engine Lube Pump Overhaul: ua-cam.com/vid...
Many Ways to Start a Turbine Engine
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Let's try to describe all the different ways used to start a gas turbine engine. We're including fighter jets, airliners, helicopters and industrial ground running engines. I will include video examples of as many that I can, and here are some links to other vids: The Blackbird start cart: www.thesr71blackbird.com/Aircraft/Engines RR Avons in a Canberra: cartridge fed turbine starter: ua-cam.co...
PT6 model kit update
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Due to frustration with assembly, instructions, description, and accuracy of representation, this series of videos is at an end. I did not finish this model kit, but I want to help the manufacturer with a few small improvements, which will really bring out the potential of this kit. My suggestions are: 1- better identification of each part 2- using accurate names for those parts 3- clearer and ...
Boost Pumps
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You can think of this video as an appendix to Blancolirio's reporting on the crash of Hop-A-Jet Challenger 604. I try to explain the differences between fuel pumps, transfer pumps, and boost pumps. Feel free to post what you think I mean by "that one thing". Also: what's wrong with this picture?
PT6 model: Shaft Assembly
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Putting things together is not as straightforward as with the scale model kits I made when I was a kid. This is both a puzzle and an opportunity. Sent to Jet City Turbine Services, Inc. for review, is a scale model cutaway for display of a Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6 turboprop engine. Produced by Skymechman, and sold by EngineDIY Here is the link to the kit: www.enginediy.com/en-ca/collections/s...
Turbine Blade Cooling Air Pathways
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I got a great question this morning about the different types of cooling air passages in turbine blades, so here is my response. This is the video that the question is about: ua-cam.com/video/7upnkrhqRWQ/v-deo.html Also: ua-cam.com/video/TzwMumR3I30/v-deo.html For more, go to my channel page and put cooling air in the search feature.
2 Questions about Sound
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Today, on the same day... I got two questions that both turned out to be largely about sound. I must confess that I am a sound addict, and I have been self-diagnosed with a fairly serious loudspeaker fetish. Hey, the shop has a 6 speaker transmission line system, supported by a 950W subwoofer.
Unexpected surprise gift?
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Sent to Jet City Turbine Services, Inc. for review, is a scale model cutaway for display of a Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6 turboprop engine. Produced by Skymechman, and sold by EngineDIY Here is the link to the kit: www.enginediy.com/en-ca/collections/skymech/products/pta6-turboprop-engine-model-kit-build-your-own-turboprop-engine-that-works-3d-printing-diy-aircraft-100pcs Here are the assembly i...
Why not Gaseous Fuels for Aircraft ?
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Some thoughts about why aircraft don't use gaseous fuels, even though almost all industrial aeroderivative gas turbines run on natural gas. It's a simple answer, with, as always, complications. Comments are always welcome.
Details are Important...
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A little story about how bad things can happen through a chain of tiny things that aren't quite right. This event is part of my philosophy and motivation to always do my best work. Here is the NTSB report: www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR9706.pdf A good prequel to this vid is here: ua-cam.com/video/RyZRzdt4Zng/v-deo.html And have a look at this: After the door plug blew o...
Results of an Unloaded Power Turbine
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Results of an Unloaded Power Turbine
Turbine Cooling Air in a Jet Engine
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Turbine Cooling Air in a Jet Engine
Inflight Restart without starter power ?
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Inflight Restart without starter power ?
Can Wind Damage the Engines of a Parked Airliner?
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Can Wind Damage the Engines of a Parked Airliner?
PT6 failure in Mike Patey's Turbulence 2023
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PT6 failure in Mike Patey's Turbulence 2023
Sabre Jet engine back after 10 years
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Sabre Jet engine back after 10 years
The engine had a dream flashback from a cartoon
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The HPT blades on the Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 TEN have a life of 1000 cycles (flights) mandated by EASA (if they last that long before cracking due to creep) and cost around $25,000 USD each
hello, can you send a greeting to bocho please, I would appreciate it very much.
I have no idea what you are talking about. More than three words of info is required.
Still here at 2024 dude
Im gona be a master of an turbo jet engine within my friend circle 😅
Hey young man😊..you describe things very well😅..
Hi JayZ, can you plz do a video on Hydromechanical fuel unit which would be more understandable in your version 😅
Seem to remember early B52's and F4's smoking black..........Even the F4's suffering in Vietnam 4 being too visible...
All early jets made some smoke. The B-52s used water injection on takeoff, which makes the enginie run cooler, which allows the use of much more fuel, and makes a lot of black smoke. The earlier J79s in the earlier Phantom IIs did make quite a bit of black smoke, but they were much more powerful than contemporary engines. Later models of the J79 have different "low smoke" fuel nozzles and combustor liners, which make very little smoke. There are videos of both types posted here.
Agentjayz i cannot believe people do not believe you when you work on and build jet engines and have to use fuel to make them run!! I have a shop neighbor that builds flat head ford engines and he thinks jet fuel is a hoax. Hes only flown in a jet twice in his life!! I told him that gas for his engines was a hoax and he needs to stop paying for the water he pretends to run his engines with!! People are soo ignorant when they have never been around or build these jet engines!! Keep up spreading facts!!!
Nothing about people made much sense to me, until I read about a thing called the Dunning-Kruger effect. Now, I am more at ease with the things I hear and see.
That’s very interesting how the bell mouth makes up for the air’s angle change up to 98%
Remember my days in Cold Lake as a tech on CF-5's. J85 a great little engine but for some reason was prone to compressor stalls when fitted to this bird. Good thing it had 2 because it seemed like there wasn't a day went by without a 'bell' alarm as a result of a pilot calling in a stall on an engine. Double stalls were very rare & most of the time the pilots were able to get relights, so few crashes as a result. It was a busy time with many prospective fighter pilots from various NATO countries besides our own in their last phase of training to be full-fledged fighter jocks. So in the end it was probably a combination of engine inlet design of the aircraft along with hot shot rookies diddling with throttle position during various flight envelopes that caused so many stalls. The Tutors flown by the Snowbirds rarely suffer compressor stalls, same engine without afterburner..... Kind of makes one wonder about an engine being fine tuned on a stand in a test cell vs being installed in an aircraft with different intake geometries.... Not generally a thing with airliners as they mostly hang from the wings without lengthy intake tunnels.
J79 is a beast. You don't just hear it, you feel it when close enough. I did 6 months line servicing with 439 Sqn on CF-104 in Germany back in the early '80's. Being a rookie I was 'back end' man when we started the aircraft. On the 1st start of the day & for tactical exercises the bird was started in the Hardened Aircraft Shelter (HAS). Open front & rear doors of the HAS & light 'er up. The hydraulic panel below the power plant at the rear of the aircraft is lowered during start up so the 'back end' man, yours truly, can check for leads after the engine is started. Once all is good back end boy swings the panel up & latches it, then the 5 finger check coordinated between pilot & front boy (girl in some cases even back then ;) ) proceeds before the rocket is sent on its merry way. Anyhow, as back end you get to experience the J79 up close & personal at idle, which I think is somewhere around 60%, perhaps a little higher. Even at idle one can feel the beast....
What a good instructor im so impressed . So good explanations. Thank you so much.
Google the inboard retention plate on a Blackhawk. Safety wire nightmare.
I've heard you guys call it the hell hole.
@@AgentJayZ not at my unit but that’s a great name for it, I usually just called it the maintenance company’s problem 😆 crew chief perks
The monthly view spike has struck again xD
@15:00 - talking about "the physical linkage" for VSVs and "it's can't detect a near-stall condition and back off" gave me an idea... You are probably aware of the existence of hydraulic lifters in piston-engine valve trains to modify the valve timing... i bet it would be possible to design a VSV ring linkage with a hydraulically-variable length to allow the FADEC to vary the pitch of individual VSV rings relative to each other.... It would be really interesting to see a modern airliner engine using such a system coupled with per-stage sensors to detect an oncoming stall and interrupt it by reducing the pitch of just the stage or stages experiencing critical airflow.
It would be interesting. The ultimate would be to have every variable stator equipped with its own sensor (RVDT: rotary variable digital transducer) and rotary actuator, to constantly monitor and adjust its position. But for that, it would also need an air speed sensor. That would add enormous complexity, considerable weight, and many millions of dollars to the overall cost, as well as many hours and dollars to maintenance. Maybe just having each stage independently controlled. But then, it's a solution to a problem that is so rare. Properly adjusted and maintained engines don't stall, until they are damaged. Do you want to spend billions on a fleet of engines only to avoid a stall once they are damaged? Would that save lives? How many people are hurt by airliner engines stalling?
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Hello! While I understand your explanation of a compressor stall, i think it would be cool if you could assemble a hollow compressor case with the VIGVs actuating linkages intact and get a shot of them in action from the inside without the compressor in the way. Is such a setup possible for illustrative purposes? Thanks!
You've got to be kidding. You appear to know not what you ask. I have shown something similar in my T58 series. In my J79 test videos is an actuation of the vsv system, but from the outside.
It’s pretty cool tbh mainly because I know nothing about planes, all I know is that I make some parts to make those turbines! It’s awesome
What a very informative video it is! ❤
what initialy starts the turbines? gas thrust?
Yes. The starting up of the engine is done by some outside source of torque. The starter, which is either an air turbine or an electric motor ( see my recent video : many ways to start...). The starter turns the shaft (to which the compressor ant turbine are solidly attached) up to a speed where the compressor begins to move sufficient air. Usually about 10% of max rpm. Fuel and ignition are added, and the heated combustion gases rush out through the turbine. The starter keeps helping increase the rpm until about 30% rpm, when the compressor is delivering enough cooling air to protect the combustion liners. At that point the engine has reached an rpm from which it can accelerate on its own to ground idle, about 40%. Ground idle is the lowest speed the engine can turn where it has enough cooling air flow to avoid overheating the turbine. From ground idle to any significant power takes about 10 or more seconds. Flight idle, which is the lowest rpm recommended while flying, is often about 85% of max rpm, and from there it takes a couple of seconds to get to real useable power. The turbine is initially moved by the starter, then it is moved by the flow of combustion gases.
I recently found your channel and have been watching whenever I can. My dad was an A&P for Allegheny Airlines in the 70s and worked on JT8Ds and JT9Ds. I took a different career path to a locomotive engineer but still love learning about turbine engines. Off topic from the video ,but I bought some compressor blades off ebay years ago. Is there any database to find out which engine they're from? Thanks!
There is no master database. Just like car parts, the first thing you need to know is what car it is from. Then a parts list will help. Somebody needs to first recognize the part, and what it came out of.
@@AgentJayZ Makes sense, thanks. A couple of them have part numbers. I'll do some research.
Another feature i found interesting in school is that the compressor doesn’t stall all at once, when one blade stalls it perturbs the flow around it and can propagate or form waves and other nasty things
aka "growling" during start...
Good advice. I too, did not listen. Thanks, JZed
Great video. While they don't use hydraulic motors to start the main engines directly, some combat aircraft like F-15, F-16 and F/A-18 use them to start the small gas turbine (JFS or APU). The hydraulic accumulators are recharged when main engines are operating, but if the pressure is too low, ground crew has to manually pump them before start. If you google "F-16 manual pump" you should get some photos of ground crew with a big lever stuck in the left wheel well of the aircraft. So in a way these fighter jets are started with good old muscle power and a hand pump.... that charges the hydraulic accumulator, that powers the hydraulic motor, that starts the gas turbine, which cranks the engine through a gearbox (F-15, F-16), or air turbine starter (F/A-18).
Why was V1a covered up??
It's step 144-d in the global fuel conspiracy coverup, that you are eligible to join by watching my videos. Think wisely, because you can never leave once you sign up. Actually the computer has four channels to monitor four vibe sensors. On most tests, including this one, we are using three actual probes. Most aircraft monitor the engine vibration with one sensor per engine. Sometimes, an unconnected sensor lead will show erratic numbers on the screen, because of what, static electricity?
very nice video, but could you provide the subtitles for those with poor listening skill like me, anyway, thank you for your video which does me a favour a lot.
The subtitle generator is so hopelessly inaccurate, I will not use it.
Drop the screw doobiedoobieding
As I watch this mams videos. I realize his education is way beyond an average gas turbine engine mechanic. He has a very good understanding of very complex concepts in design and heat transfer technologies and metallurgy. Metallurgy is a subject that is more difficult than a nuclear physicist. Metallurgy is so complex that many will specialize in a group of metals such as non ferrous, ferrous, Titanium and it's alloys, Grasses and bronze, etc... I used to teach Metallurgy and am impressed with his knowledge of so many of these areas of expertise. I also was a welding engineer who built gast tibine engine hot zone components, mostly combustion cans. Someday I want to visit his shop and learn more in person. My last bucket list thing to do while alive. May visit after I pass...😅
When I was an aircraft welder at Langley AFB in Virginia I was watching a mass takeoff of all our flyable F15s going in pairs, side by side when one infrint if me in full afterburner suffered a conoressor stall and lost lift. The wingman dropped his throttle and stayed next to him as he recovered very quickly and still took off, just used up a few hundred more feet of runway. Kept going and did not return to base as pilot didn't see any reason to return.i couldn't believe how quickly that engine recovered tho. I would say no more than 5 seconds and he was at full throttle again. F100 Pratt & Whitney engines.
Yes, one way a compressor can stall is if the rotation speed increases so quickly it gets a little "in front of" the resultant airspeed through it. Backing off and reapplying throttle a bit more gently cures it.
Had a 79 in 1989 that when you snapped the throttle from mil to max would over temp due to nozzle not opening fast enough. The engine would over temp and drive the speed below 87%, that would take the engine out of A/B then the speed would recover and the A/B would light again and start the cycle again. NAC had an internal failure.
Excellent example of how a malfunctioning component can affect the operation of the engine. We can all learn from this... but some out there will choose not to.
In the Air Force as soon as an engine cools down to a set temperature, the engine covers are put on the front and back if the engine to protect them from damage from flying from debris and any living critter from making a home inside the engine.
Enjoyed.
A good series Jz, thanks
thats how we polish granite aswell
omg why have I never thought of that?
Yeah, it seems so obvious now... just like when I first found out about the mustard lid thing... last year!
My Grandpa used to tell me that. 'Don't get old', he said. Now I know why.
There's a well known video of 757 ingesting a crow on takeoff, engine stalls, with flames shooting out of it (why periodically?) until crew shuts it down, plane returns to airport.
Periodically because the ignitors are on continuously during takeoff but fuel can only ignite when it's mixed properly with oxygen. No oxygen, no fire. Usually the compressor makes there is lots of oxygenated air to mix with the fuel. If the compressor is damaged, there will not be enough air, and the fuel won't ignite until it spreads out by being blown out the back of the engine into the local air. Once it is spread out enough, it burns. Then all the fuel is gone, the ignitors stay on, the fuel keeps spraying, and the cycle repeats.
@@cecilkorik Ah yes igniters, forgot about those. Or rather, I wasn't aware they're still on during takeoff phase.
That's not correct. Under normal running conditions, only about 15 to 20% of the oxygen in the air in the combustors is used to burn the fuel. During a compressor stall the flame usually does not go out. Even if the ignitors are not activated.
I could be wrong here but I am under the impression that many compressors work best at a specific air ingestion rate. This has been told to me as the reason for needing the ramps and spaces between the fuselage intakes and engine intakes. Mt favorite example for this is the F-4 as it had two different engines EG the SPEY in RAF service. Apparently the intake ramp activation happened at the same IAS as the J-79 engine variant. I was told that since airlines should not hit transonic speeds so they do not need them. However in extremely turbulent air I'm guessing you could have a 100kt difference in airspeed which would give the compressor a really hard time. This is roughly what wiki says but TBH I do not 100% trust either source.
You've "been told" a lot of things. Many of them are not revelations, but are just things. You've mingled all of these normal and well understood principles into a bit of an interesting grouping here.
"Don't get old" is good advice bur inevitable. I just turned 70 last October and am going in for a left hip overhaul next month. Believe me, keep your carcass in shape, whatever it takes.
my mom told me to not get old and i didnt listen :< lol
You want to know my my old man at the first job said? I sat down. Put his lunch box on the table and took out his sandwiches. He looked at it and took a bite. 'Not cheese again;' I asked who made them. He did.
Don’t get old! 25 years ago I was waterskiing,playing hockey, working out, giving blood, riding bike and working 50+ hours a week, 10 years ago I was riding bike and working 50+ hours a week, these days I hope to do some of those things again someday and work 40 hours a week. By the way compressors stall because shit wears out!
I had a stall I was here at work for at a power plant, LM6000. The unit it approx 100 yards away. It shook the building, it got everyone’s attention. They trip immediately. Then comes the borescope. 😂
Appreciate the prelude. There can't be many here who don't understand that if they enjoy content, there are actions that may get them more of the same. We don't nedd the annoying reminders. Thanks! And I don't need a metal wallet or a VPN.
There was a time when the creator had some control over the type of ads. Now there is only a box to check or not to check. As I mentioned earlier, I paid a couple grand a month for a year, and nobody could explain this to me. Here, I'm doing it for free. Every time somebody clicks on an ad, I get about a penny, so I hope people can put up with ads.
I am currently building a jet engine at 14 this video and many others like it have helped me a great deal in understanding how it all works
Now you got me worried! Compressor stall is not that bad, it could be flown with no problem, even if flames are shooting out at both ends, everything is OK. The stall may just be due to little dings, or just ageing. And then I worry. This thing is damaged! Better go into another plane!
And again, another very interesting video.
A word that was used a fair amount by one of my college profs that seems particularly apt in this case: You take a perfectly running engine then "perturb" it. Kick it, run a goose through it or volcanic ash - you perturb it. A manufacture will do this in a controlled manner but once your engine is out in the wild; what perturbs it is no longer controlled. The prob was fond of kicking things to perturb them. :^) Spinning tops, excessive voltage - you get the idea. Anyway, I also grew fond of the word.